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Buffy #4

December 15th, 2011 (06:46 pm)

So, what happened in the new issue? As you may already know, presumably-good guy Severin turned out to be a bad guy, Simone's accomplice, a Siphon who sucks demonic essense out of demons and slayers; while presumably-bad guy, demon Eldre Koh, turned out to be a good guy and Buffy's ally. He also became Spike's partner and confidant; the latter confided into him: he has feelings for Buffy and doesn't want her to know about them, because she needs normalcy in her life.


In the climactic scene Severin tries to suck Buffy's slayer power out of her, Spike rushes to the rescue, Severin grabs him too, and...




Then Severin is shot by detective Dowling, and our heroes are saved. They don't interact afterwards: Spike runs away when Eldre Koh starts pressing him about Buffy again. Did they feel each other's feelings, connected through Severin? Some people on forums think it's quite possible. But, in any case, the scene of them almost dying in Severin's hands is very shippy. Both Buffy and Spike think they're about to die, and both utter each other's names. One can hear the sound of violins at the background.

The scene is so shippy that I am really, really afraid for the future of favorite blonds. Joss never gives shippers anything unless he plans to take away much more than he has given.

Overall, the issue is very good - quick-paced, with great twists and a couple of great one-liners. (Buffy about Severin: "[he] tried to turn me into his personal Duracell". Willow to Buffy after the fight is over: "I wanted to be here in case you joined the no-powers club. I thought you might need a magic-free shoulder to cry on".) But overall dialogues are functional and straightforward - I'd love to see more quips and quirks. Maybe it's because the issue is mostly about action

A little bit of nitpicking: Spike sends group text messages about Siphon on page 8. On page 14 Xander and Dawn haven't got it yet; at least they act like they haven't. Continuity problem or something to do with the plot?

The art is energetic and very cinematic. Colorist Michelle Madsen did particularly good job here: red and blue light from police cars are reflected on objects, faces and silhouettes, pulsing with action, with alarm, with emotions.

So, where do we go from here?

So far, Buffy and Spike are the only persons whom Severin zapped but not killed. The consequences can be varied. For example, Spikee may catch the Siphon virus and become the next Siphon. He may turn half-human, half-vampire (an idea explored in Babrverse and in "My Life Closed Twice" by Anaross). He may turn human (although I doubt it) - gradually. Or maybe he has read Buffy's mind, has felt her love and now wants to leave because he doesn't want her to spend her life with a vampire. Or he may stay just the same Spike, slightly shaken by the experience but otherwise unchanged.

The same situation is with Buffy. Writers can go in each direction. By the end of the issue she says that she is still a slayer - but she may lose her powers gradually. Or she may acquire new powers

By the end of the issue Buffy promises to Willow to help her ("Your magic, Will. We'll figure it out, I promise"). On the cover of the next issue Willow is shown leaving, and in the lettercol Allie says that "we say goodbye to a key character". My guess is that it's Allie's way of saying that Willow will go on a spiritual journey - either to rediscover magic or to deal with its loss.

Interesting detail: the power that Severin sucked out of vampires can do positive things - heal, for example. Maybe it's a clue to Willow's possible way of regaining her magic.

Oh, and the red-glasses guy from #40 is Severin (we see him in these glasses in a flashback). Pity. My hope to see Ripper is crushed.


Posted by: norwie2010 (norwie2010)
Posted at: December 15th, 2011 06:13 pm (UTC)

Thank you for your review - and also for sneaking in great fic recs. ;-)

(Gah! I'm not made for those 30 days gaps...)

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: December 15th, 2011 06:40 pm (UTC)

sneaking in great fic recs. ;-)

I've finished rereading "My Life" several days ago. I adore Anaross' stuff. I remember people accusing her of Angel bashing in some of her stories and her reply "I love Angel but somehow he ends up a bad guy in my stories". After Twilight arc I wonder if Anaross is more attuned to Joss vision than many of us.

(Gah! I'm not made for those 30 days gaps...)

Tell me about it. :)
Right now I follow MarkWatches and I'm green with envy. The guy has just started watching BtVS. He's 100% unspoiled (he asked "Is Angel another slayer?" in his first review). He watches 5 NEW Buffy episodes a week. It's not fair!! :)

Posted by: uwsannajane (uwsannajane)
Posted at: December 15th, 2011 07:14 pm (UTC)

I've been watching my 14-year-old son drink it all in. Fortunately, he absolutely loves BtVS, which makes me so happy! His favorite character is probably Xander, I think because any awkward young man can see a bit of himself in that character, and he's especially fond of "The Zeppo."

Agree with your review. Including this, alas: "The scene is so shippy that I am really, really afraid for the future of favorite blonds. Joss never gives shippers anything unless he plans to take away much more than he has given."

Everyone (in the comic) is so pissed off at Buffy. I'm still trying to figure out what alternative she had to destroying the Seed.

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: December 15th, 2011 07:46 pm (UTC)

My son was 13 in 2000 when BtVS premiered in Russia. He loved it, too. I often watched new episodes together with my children. Good times... :)

Everyone (in the comic) is so pissed off at Buffy. I'm still trying to figure out what alternative she had to destroying the Seed.

I have the impression that only Willow is really unhappy about the Seed. Severin doesn't count - he's a bad guy, he wanted to be a vampire. Simone always hated Buffy.

Posted by: lusciousxander (lusciousxander)
Posted at: December 15th, 2011 07:55 pm (UTC)

Aw, I hope my son grows up to be a Buffy fan like his mommy. He's gonna turn three this January. His birthday is in the same month as Buffy's. Hee.

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: December 15th, 2011 08:16 pm (UTC)

*melts* :)))

I think it's pretty possible. Recent reviews by first-time viewers are very good. Look like BtVS doesn't become dated. Like good vine, it becomes better with age. Maybe the new generation, the generation of your children will be able to look at BtVS without prejudices and fully appreciate its brilliance.

Posted by: norwie2010 (norwie2010)
Posted at: December 15th, 2011 07:20 pm (UTC)

Anaross is awesome!

I'm not fan of character bashing, but then i never felt she did it anyways. (If the sole purpose of a character - even a character i don't particularly care for or even like - in a story is to be bashed, to let the audience feel morally superior to her/him and revel in pettiness and chauvinistic feelings of superiority... well, it is THE turn off for me.)

Also, i join you in your envy re: MarkWatches. *green*

Posted by: lusciousxander (lusciousxander)
Posted at: December 15th, 2011 07:59 pm (UTC)

I pretty much think that something happened to Buffy and Spike. I'd love to think that having the power sucked from Spike will leave him human -that's what I'm going for in Connection. I don't care if it's not canon. I wanna explore human Spike. :)

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: December 15th, 2011 08:23 pm (UTC)

I'm torn about human Spike. On one hand, I don't want him to lose his cool, and I don't want him to replace Xander as Buffy's closest male friend.

OTON, if Spike turns human, there could be (hopefully) more interaction between him and Xander, him and Dawn. Such prospects warm my heart. Although I realise that in that case Joss has to have something really nasty up his sleeve to keep Buffy and Spike apart.

Posted by: leyki (enzialla)
Posted at: December 16th, 2011 05:06 am (UTC)

It's more than certain that something happened to both Buffy and especially Spike. Severin comments "that sparks differently" and there is a reason why they placed the comment there. It's a comic book, only a few panels and words, so that is there for a reason. Whenever Severin siphons vampires, he sparks mostly green. In Buffy's case it was mostly yellow. At those 3 panels that he was siphoning both of them his power was sparking yellow mostly. And when he is almost ready to kill Spike, he sparks totally yellow instead of also green. Then the detective shoots him, he lets go of Buffy and Spike, and he starts sparking green again trying to heal himself.

So unless they have made a huge mistake in coloring, it has to mean something. And since he also commented that it sparks differently on Buffy, that means that something was done to Spike because his power on Spike sparked yellow only instead of yellow and green like on all those other vampires.

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: December 16th, 2011 11:10 am (UTC)

Wow, great idea. I haven't thought about it - I dismissed "sparks differently" as Buffy's slayer demon being different than vampiric demons.

Thanks for food for thought.

Posted by: leyki (enzialla)
Posted at: December 16th, 2011 11:51 am (UTC)
I miss that sex

Or it means nothing and nothing was done to either of them and it just "sparks differently" because they both have a soul :P

Posted by: leyki (enzialla)
Posted at: December 16th, 2011 05:11 am (UTC)
Eyes admiting love....


Feel free to share that theory of mine with others :P

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: December 16th, 2011 11:11 am (UTC)

I'm going to ask Jeanty about it.

Posted by: leyki (enzialla)
Posted at: December 16th, 2011 11:53 am (UTC)

Actually that was a theory from DD in Buffytube :p

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: December 16th, 2011 09:07 pm (UTC)

I posted a question and mentioned that I post on the behalf of a fan who can't post there, without naming names.

I can't figure out navigaton on Buffytube. Sometimes I log in, start clicking different links and realise that I'm pathetic. Veiri encouraged me to post there, but all her attempts were in vain :(

I know that there must be interesting discussions - I love reading Veiri's theories, your ideas, Double Dutchesse's musings. I remember her posts on IWD forums - I loved them!

Maybe I'll make another attempt at BuffyTube.

Posted by: botias (botias)
Posted at: December 16th, 2011 10:41 pm (UTC)

Thank you for these reviews. I feel like I'm getting the parts of the comics that I am interested in. :)

Posted by: maryksand (maryksand)
Posted at: December 18th, 2011 09:17 pm (UTC)

Ну и дела:) Фандом Спаффи просто взорвался после выхода этого номера... Сцена вполне интенсивная, и, я бы сказала, романтичная, но, опять же, я - одна из тех странных людей, для которых двое, находящиеся на грани смерти и произносящие имена друг друга возможно в последний для них момент, кажется безумно романтичным :))) Я бы сказала, что эта сцена важная и эмоциональная, но не одна из тех, которые могут кончится тем, чем это обычно кончается у Ведона - разбитым сердцом шипперов и разбитыми отношениями. Он должен дать что-то большее, если планирует отнять еще больше. Ну, посмотрим:)

С наступающим! И я ношу твой аватар:))

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: December 19th, 2011 09:25 am (UTC)

Привет! Тебя тоже с наступающим!

Насчет аватарки - я польщена! Честное слово!

Рада, что ты все-таки следишь за комиксами. А то я заметила, что многие люди принимают превентивные меры - перестают читать, чтобы не расстраиваться потом.

Не знаю, видела ли ты обложки февральского и мартовского номера - но они такие спаффские, чо дух захватывает. Более того, Скотт Алли твитнул, что в апрельском номере будет еще круче.

Короче, страшно мне за наших блондинов. Наверняка будет какая-то очень большая гадость.

Simon с Whedonesque считает, что Спайку придется обратить Баффи в вампира. С композиционной точки зрения, по интенсивности это вполне может подняться на уровень космотраха, а то и превысить. И тогда десятый сезон Баффи будет вампиром, а в конце сезона получит шаншу.

И конечно, перед тем, как все разрушить, Джосс обязательно подразнит фанов идеей милого семейного счастья для Баффстер.

Posted by: maryksand (maryksand)
Posted at: December 19th, 2011 02:50 pm (UTC)

Аватарка мне эта ну уж очень нравится:)) Долго решала, какую использовать: эту или со Спангелом, так как люблю оба паринга:) Но Спаффи - ОТП, так что выбрала ее:)

Я, если честно, не так близко за комиксами слежу, но последние номера смотрела ради Спаффи, я даже и не расстраиваюсь уже из-за комиксов, так как не считаю их каноном, читаю, как фанфикшн. Ясное дело, что магию сериала они никогда не повторят, да и сюжет не сравнить. Просто интересны некоторые моменты, а еще я очень надеюсь, что Джосс не пойдет по пути современных сценаристов, которые только играют с публикой и делают это основной целью, а непосредственно сама история уходит на второй план. Они могут написать что-то, что не имеет смысла или притянуто за уши ради шокового эффекта, и это выглядит так слабо и дешево. Спору нет, Джосс водил свою публику за нос не один раз и будет это делать и дальше, но никогда сериал от этого не страдал, потому что история для него была на первом месте, он делал то, что делал, потому что так было надо по сюжету, это имело смысл, пусть даже и не всегда понятный нам, зрителям, но понятный ему, и поэтому история от этого не страдала и всегда развивалась. Сейчас сценаристы так писать уже не умеют, набросают всякой всячины в одну кучу, приправят этими самыми шоковыми моментами и считают, что они - Ведон. Так вот, надеюсь, что он все-таки будет держать марку, и до этого дела не дойдет) Я Джоссу позволю разбивать мое сердце и дальше, но только если он будет это делать в своей непревзойденной манере:)

Кстати, а ты не могда бы ине ссылочку кинуть на Твиттер Элли?

И хм, неплохая мысль относительно Баффи вампира и шаншу, вполне возможет и такой расклад событий.

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: December 19th, 2011 05:07 pm (UTC)

Вот этот твит:


Veiriti Veiry (Viara T)
@ScottAllie Buffy #4 was great issue!Thank you Scott!The moment between Spike and Buffy was so heartbreaking.Loved it!S/B 4ever! :)
17 Dec
in reply to @Veiriti ↑
Scott Allie
@ScottAllie Scott Allie
@Veiriti wait till you see #8!
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У Джосса, чего уж греха таить, тоже силен элемент "gotcha!" - но, как ты правильно говоришь, он рассказывает по-настоящему захватывающие истории. И, судя по тому, что я читаю в интервью, он самолично придумал сквозной сюжет 9 сезона, причем, как он обычно делает - с конца. Так что сердца нам разобьет не Эндрю Чемблисс, а Джосс.

Posted by: maryksand (maryksand)
Posted at: December 19th, 2011 07:06 pm (UTC)

Спасибо!:) Сейчас пойду погляжу на его твиттер, так как сама недавно там зарегистрировалась (мало пользуюсь им, правда).

Да, Джосс - чемпион по элементу "gotcha!", но всегда такие повороты сюжета в его истории имели смысл, а не были написаны исключительно ради того, чтобы спровоцировать определенную реакцию у зрителей. Надеюсь, что и в комиксах он не изменит своему стилю.

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