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Elections, Russian style.

March 4th, 2012 (11:47 pm)
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Posted by: Chani (frenchani)
Posted at: March 4th, 2012 09:08 pm (UTC)

Vieille méthode (bourrer les urnes) mais technologie moderne!

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: March 4th, 2012 09:42 pm (UTC)
Buffy

Ils ont aussi utilisé le methode qu'on appèle "manège de chevaux de bois" - quand le même personne vote aux plusiers permanences électorales.

Posted by: Chani (frenchani)
Posted at: March 4th, 2012 09:47 pm (UTC)

Oui j'ai vu ça. Et tous ces jeunes venus voter en bus à Moscou...

C'est à pleurer...d'ailleurs même Vladimir Vladimirovitch pleure maintenant!

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: March 4th, 2012 10:41 pm (UTC)
Buffy

Le porte-parole de Putine a declaré qu'il avait des larmes a cause du vent. Et moi, je pense de crocodiles qui pleurent avant de dévorer ces victimes.

Posted by: Chani (frenchani)
Posted at: March 5th, 2012 10:18 am (UTC)

Bonne chance pour la manif d'aujourd'hui, Elena, mais faites tous bien attention!

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: March 5th, 2012 06:59 pm (UTC)

Merci, cherie, je suis revenue chez moi sain et sauf. Mais les manifestants qui ont refusé de partir ont été arretés.
La situation a Moscou est très intense. J'ai fait quelques photos:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.308881725837668.76676.100001475283229&type=1

Posted by: Chani (frenchani)
Posted at: March 5th, 2012 07:11 pm (UTC)

Merci d'avoir donné des nouvelles!

Il paraît que Limonov fait partie de ceux qui ont été arrêtés.

Ton lien ne fonctionne pas. C'est peut-être parce que je ne suis pas sur facebook?

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: March 5th, 2012 08:00 pm (UTC)

Oui, je crois qu'il faut s'enregistrer sue Facebook de voir le content. J'ai posté une photo a mon journal Russe
http://diary.ru/~Vasquez/p173725554.htm
Les manifestants ridiculisaient Putin sans merci.

Posted by: Beer Good (beer_good_foamy)
Posted at: March 4th, 2012 09:10 pm (UTC)
Dawn

If that's what I think it is, I guess someone figured that if "one person, one vote" is a good idea, "one person, 20 votes" is an even better one...?

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: March 4th, 2012 10:07 pm (UTC)

You're not wrong, alas. The scale of falsifications is staggering. They organized "additional lists" that allowed unidentified people to vote without absentee passes, and they were carrying these people in buses from one polling station to another.

I'm following the results by coordination center of independent watchers and the results differ about 13-14%.

My son works as a volunteer watcher at one of the polling stations. Right now their web-cameras are switched off, and I'm scared for him. Moscow is flooded with troops and people from pro-Kremlin youth movement "Nashi".

I'll go to the protest meeting tomorrow. I don't know if anything could be done in this situation, but it's so humiliating to look at this political circus.

Posted by: Beer Good (beer_good_foamy)
Posted at: March 4th, 2012 10:55 pm (UTC)

Best of luck to all of you. It's amazing, the amount of shit politicians can get away with simply by... well, deciding to get away with them.

Posted by: thepuddinhead (thepuddinhead)
Posted at: March 4th, 2012 09:53 pm (UTC)

I'd like to post the youtube vid on my facebook but thought I should ask first. The treatment of the election in the media here is "there are CLAIMS of widespread fraud, but..."

Would it be ok if I posted it? I know it's not much, but if everyone keeps shouting about it, people will pay attention I hope.

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: March 4th, 2012 10:36 pm (UTC)

Of course, you may post it! You can also post how the streets of Moscow look today.

http://lenta.ru/photo/2012/03/04/streets/#pic015

These thieves who rigged the elections - they're afraid of the people. They say on TV that these were the most honest elections in Russia. I have no words...

Posted by: a2zmom (a2zmom)
Posted at: March 5th, 2012 12:55 am (UTC)

The corruption is staggering. How could anyone claim these elections aren't rigged?

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: March 5th, 2012 06:56 am (UTC)

All my friends from my generation are pessimistic and depressed. The young ones are ready to fight for official admission of real results. My son was a watcher at an electoral poll. He just came come. They spent allday and night there, about 24 hours. He said according to their results Putin got 41,9%. He is still on the first place, but this numbers indicate that Putin stole 10-15% of votes. There will be a meeting today evening - I hope people will be demanding to make public all the official records from the election polling stations. Looks like a lion's share of falsifications happens in the central electoral committee run by Putin's close friend, Churov. That's besides electoral rolls, "additional lists" and shameless pro-Putin propaganda at all TV channels.

I don't know if we could change anything by protesting - but I repeat Angel's words "If nothing we do matters then the only thing that matters is what we do".

Posted by: a2zmom (a2zmom)
Posted at: March 5th, 2012 11:45 pm (UTC)

I'm glad your son's ok. What he's doing is so dangerous but so necessary. You should be proud.

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: March 6th, 2012 10:54 am (UTC)
Buffy

Oh, I am. Very proud and very scared. Looks like right now Russia is in a no-win situation. There will be either big political disturbances, up to a revolt, or a reinforcement of authoritatian regime, elimination of the remains of democracy. The second option is more probable.

Posted by: Saffiulla Karman (skarman)
Posted at: March 5th, 2012 02:47 am (UTC)

Looks to me like somebody has hired some Chicago Elections Professionals. After all, there (and across the country) the dead, Mickey Mouse and illegals can vote since you don't need ID, nor are the electoral rolls vetted and cleaned up. I wish you luck.

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: March 5th, 2012 06:57 am (UTC)
Buffy

Thanks! We need a lot of luck today. There will be a manifestation of protest at the center of Noscow and there could be provocations. Hopefully the authorities won't spill blood.

Posted by: lutamira (lutamira)
Posted at: March 5th, 2012 02:56 am (UTC)

Thanks for posting this. This is absolutely ridiculous but the coverage here is mostly along the lines of "Well, there are accusations of fraud."

Stay safe.

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: March 5th, 2012 07:13 am (UTC)

I can understand your media - it's a serious accusation. But I'm 100% sure that the elections were rigged because my son, who was the watcher, just returned from his polling station and said that Putin got 41,9% and they have the copy of protocol. He covered two polling stations and both have the same result.

There will be a manifestation of protest today. We'll be demanding to make public all the protocols sent to Central Electoral Committee. People don't want a revolution - people only want the authorities not to steal their votes.

Posted by: MarvelGirl (marvelgirl_art)
Posted at: March 5th, 2012 06:05 am (UTC)

пиздец. просто натуральный пиздец.
и собственная беспомощность в данной ситуации убивает.

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: March 5th, 2012 07:20 am (UTC)

Я пойду сегодня на Пушкинскую. Хоть и понимаю, что ничего не изменится, и они будут продолжать разворовывать страну еще 12 лет.

У меня Гриха был наблюдателем, причем он как журналист наблюдал на двух участках на Профсоюзной. Они там считали всю ночь - и наблюдатели очень внимательно следили. Их там было по 3-4 человека на каждом участке. И на обоих получилось одинаково - у Путина 41,9%. Это со всеми фальшивыми открепительными и каруселями.

Мне интересно, потребуют ли на Пушкинской, чтобы Чуров обнародовал все первичные протоколы. Потому что, похоже, очень существенные приписки идут наверху, в самом ЦИКе.

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